Debra Messing to Susan Sarandon: STFU About Trump Already!

So Debra Messing and Susan Sarandon are not friends.

Like, at all.

Who knows what their relationship was like before the 2016 presidential election, if they even had one, but when Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton official became the Republican and Democratic nominees, things got real bad, real fast.

Debra has always been a big supporter of Hillary, while Susan was (and still is) one of those people who was super, super into Bernie Sanders.

When Hillary won the primary, Susan was very displeased, and she refused to support her.

She also kind of began to support Trump in a roundabout way, making statements like “Some people feel Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately. If he gets in, then things will really explode.”

She said that Hillary was too “dangerous” to endorse, and right before the election, she began endorsing Jill Stein, because she felt that Hillary would easily win so it would be fine for people to “vote their conscience.”

Obviously, things did not work out like that.

Pretty much every single time Susan has made some dumb public statement on Trump, Debra has been there to call her out on it.

They’ve gotten into plenty of Twitter fights, Debra has called Susan “insane” and insisted that she be “held accountable” for her misguided political comments.

And now that Susan is running her mouth again, Debra is there to shut it down.

This week, Variety released a new interview with Susan, and in the interview, she talked more about that “revolution” idea she’s been so excited about.

She said that a good thing about Trump’s presidency so far is that he’s so bad, he’s inspiring young people to get more into politics, and that he’s also inspiring more women and people of color to run for office.

“This is a revolution,” she said. “Maybe things had to get so bad before real change actually could happen. We just have to stay awake.”

When Debra saw the interview … well, she went the f–k off.

“STFU SUSAN,” she began her Twiter tirade. “Oh yes, PLEASE let’s give Trump CREDIT.”

“I mean how else are you able to walk out on the street. Convince yourself that this CATASTROPHE of a president who you said was better that HRC IS NOT ripping children away from people seeking asylum, holding children INDEFINITELY in internment camps with their new policy …”

“DESTROYING all attemps to protect our environment (yes the water you properted to care about), endangered animals, taking away women’s ACCESS to health care and legal abortion, trying to block POC from voting with extreme judges who will support jerrymandering efforts, not to mention destroying ALL goodwill and allied relationships across the globe.”

“Oh,” she continued, “and lest you forget Syria, Crimea, and putting PRO-RUSSIA agenda BEFORE the United States best interests.”

“YES, do go on and LAUD the effect Trump has had out of DESPERATION & PANIC for the DESTRUCTION of the Soul of our country.”

We know, we know, it’s a lot, but she’s still not done!

“You don’t want to look at THAT part of the equation,” Debra wrote. “Because then you’d have to admit you were dead WRONG running around bellowing that HRC was more dangerous than Trump.”

“Only a self righteous narcissist would continue to spout off and not — in the face of Americans’ pain and agony — be contrite and apologize for your part in this catastrophe.”

She wrapped things up with “But you do you Susan.”

Susan responded briefly by telling Debra to actually watch her interview “before you get yourself all self-righteous,” but Debra said that she actually watched the interview twice.

So who’s right here?

Well, Debra, clearly. She uses a lot of caps in her argument, but it’s a solid argument.

Susan has received a lot of criticism since her interview began making the rounds, and she’s been quick to remind people that she’s not pro-Trump by any means.

As she’s been reminding everyone on her Twitter account, she got arrested earlier this summer at an anti-Trump protest, and she has been using her platform to urge everyone to vote.

But it’s hard to forget all those insane things she said in 2016, and it’s still weird how she’s romanticizing the idea of this big revolution when really everything just kind of sucks right now.

So please, just … be better, Susan.



Farrah Abraham, Debra Danielsen Battle For Custody of Sohpia!

As you’ve likely heard by now, Farrah Abraham was arrested last week after allegedly assaulting a male staffer at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

Sources say the victim was not seriously injured, and the sight of Farrah telling the cops to go f–k themselves remains hilarious, so consider this one of those situations that sucked for everyone involved, but that still allows you to laugh at all the principal players guilt-free.

In fact, the only one who’s deserving of your sympathy here is Farrah’s 9-year-old daughter, Sophia, who was in the hotel at the time of the incident.

Insiders insist that Sophia did not witness the attack on what we assume was a bartender who had the gall to cut Farrah off after her 17th margarita.

However, the fact that Sophia was in the building and thus had to be turned over to the care of a nanny while her mother was behind bars has raised concerns about Farrah’s fitness as a parent.

Not surprisingly, Farrah’s parents are offering two very different takes on the situation.

“We have seen this before,” Michael Abraham recently told Radar Online.

“The situation was blown out of proportion, a misunderstanding that occurred and there was no battery or trespassing charges,” he adds.

“The police were doing their job even though they were misinformed and lied to by others at the hotel.”

Debra Danielsen, however, is said to be deeply concerned about her granddaughter’s well-being and “hopes to hire a lawyer who can possibly help her gain custody time with Sophia.”

It seems that even before last week’s violence, Deb objected to Farrah’s decision to pull Sophia out of school so that she could tag along on her mother’s world travels.

“[Sophia] needs to be with her family, not about strangers and volatility and her mother being arrested,” Debra told Radar.

“It’s very disgusting,” Danielsen added.

“She needs to go to school… She needs to not be dragged on a party all over the world.”

It seems Debra is taking steps to ensure that Sophia will be spending more time in stable environments and hopes to secure partial custody of the girl.

Farrah has yet to comment on the impending court battle, but Michael certainly has some thoughts on the situation.

“If Debra takes that route she will be only making the divide between her and Farrah only worse,” he says.

“If Debra wants to be able to see the girls (Sophia), Debra needs to look at herself and CHANGE. Stop selling disgusting stories about Farrah which fraudulently diagnose mental illness and poor parenting.” 

Michael goes on to accuse Deb of exploiting the situation to try and boost her own public profile:

“If Debra really cared, she would have listened to my request while we were finding out the details and facts,” Michael says.

“It’s NEVER about doing what a parent should be doing, which is supporting her daughter and NOT THROWING HER FAMILY UNDER A BUS for money or to be relevant.”

As for the accusation that Sophia currently isn’t receiving an education, Michael insists she’s getting the best education possible by trotting the globe with Farrah.

“The fact is Sophia is in school,” he says, “a virtual school that permits her to do her lessons, homework, and activities anywhere.” 

He goes on to argue that Farrah was brought up in a similar fashion:

“World travel is excellent education for a child’s future,” Michael says.

“Debra must have forgot that we did the same with both Ashley and Farrah when they were children – yes they traveled the world with us!”

And look how Farrah turned out! Checkmate, Deb!


Debra Danielsen: I Need to Get Sophia Away from Farrah Abraham!!

Late Tuesday night, Farrah Abraham was arrested after allegedly striking an employee at a Beverly Hills hotel. Police say that she was intoxicated, but Farrah blames everyone else. Classic Farrah.

Her mother has expressed her concern for her 9-year-old granddaughter. She says that Sophia would be better off with her.

In the mean time, Farrah has released her own statement about the incident. And it is bonkers.

Debra Danielsen is horrified by Farrah’s arrest. It doesn’t sound like she’s surprised, or even especially worked up over her daughter.

As she tells RadarOnline, Debra fears for her granddaughter, 9-year-old Sophia.

“She needs to be with her family,” Danielsen insists through tears.

Farrah is her daughter, but she’s also an adult. Sophia is just 9 years old. Her mother’s arrest could be traumatic. Especially since Farrah remained in jail for a while.

And Danielsen says that she knows exactly what isn’t a healthy environment for a child.

Sophia, she says, needs to be somwhere that’s not “Not [around] strangers and volatility and her mother being arrested.”

For the record, Sophia was at the hotel, but was up in her room and was presumably asleep. Hours earlier, she had been hanging out with her mom by the pool.

Reports say that Sophia remained with her nanny during her mother’s time behind bars.

Debra Danielsen, who is clearly feeling very emotional about this situation, laments:

“It’s very disgusting,” she says.

It sounds like there’s so much more than just Farrah’s arrest that’s on her mind, and it all comes boiling to the surface.

The emotional grandmother says: “She needs to go to school…”

Farrah homeschools Sophia, which … is probably very interesting but perhaps not what is best for the innocent 9-year-old.

Keep in mind that requirements for homeschooling vary from state to state, but many of those requirements are inadequate and none require a healthy level of socialization.

Danielsen makes it clear that she’s worried about more than just Sophia’s education and socialization.

“She needs to not be dragged on a party all over the world,” she says.


Visiting places like Capri is cool, but arguably not as cool as being a well-adjusted child who knows how to interact with strangers, make friends, and function in society.

(Which we of course hope that, no matter the obstacles, Sophia will nonetheless manage to do)

Farrah Abraham was released from jail on Wednesday, and took to Instagram to share the news.

“Looking great in @prettylittlething,” she writes beside a paparazzi shot of her exit.

That’s right, folks; she begins her post with some of the least appropriate product placement that we have ever seen.

“No charges & no jail time,” she brags.

This is Farrah, so … the truth of that statement, if any, is unclear.

Farrah begins her rant, which takes on the usual word salad elements that remind us to be worried about what she may be teaching Sophia.

“I chose this life and I handle being targeted as a public figure & public punching bag,” she says.

So … she seems to be suggesting that she is being framed or harassed because she is famous-ish.

“ALL is Fair In Farrah’s world,” she says. “I will never believe the lies that people need to sell to make a dollar off me.”

Why would someone believe lies about themselves? Sorry, we know better than to try to make sense of Farrah’s words.

The rant continues.

“Happy it’s all recorded and documented,” Farrah says. “As I should never feel unsafe and be targeted at a hotel I’m staying at.”

She accuses the hotel itself of misconduct.

“The Beverly Hills hotel truly allowed misconduct by staff to a paying guest.” She then adds: “There’s no need for me or anyone else to be treated this way.”

Farrah is accused of having gotten into an argument with another guest, and then of having struck and pulled the ear of a security guard.

Farrah also has a bone to pick with the police.

“The Beverly Hills Police officers should stop having power trips and lying and selling stories to TMZ,” she writes. “While you let all of Beverly Hills be robbed, car break ins, stealing go on…”

We must have missed that story about the largest heist in history — entire neighborhoods of multimillionaires — stripped bare while the ingenious thieves used Farrah as a distraction.

“Focus on really protecting the public and doing good for Beverly Hills,” Farrah advises. “Instead of creating made up problems.”

Farrah is a real piece of work, but there’s no sign that Sophia was actually exposed to any of the hotel drama.

Still, it may have been a scary experience for Sophia. When mommy’s in jail, you can feel alone and powerless and afraid for the future.

But while Debra Danielsen may have been responding emotionally to Farrah’s arrest, she has a point.

Maybe Sophia deserves to have a real life beyond her mother’s globetrotting adventures.

That said … Danielsen might not be the answer. Remember, this is the woman who raised Farrah Abraham.

This is also the sort of mother who gives out tearful, backstabbing interviews while her daughter is in police custody.

Sophia deserves … so much better.


Debra Danielsen: Viewers Won’t Accept Mackenzie McKee!

Teen Mom OG fans know that Mackenzie McKee is joining the show and replacing Farrah Abraham, after Farrah got “hate crimed” (fired).

Mackenzie’s no stranger to the Teen Mom franchise, but does she have what it takes to fill the void left when Farrah was cast out?

Farrah’s own mother weighs in.

Remember Teen Mom 3? The world wasn’t ready for Teen Mom 3. Or, at least, that’s what audiences apparently decided.

But Mackenzie Douthit McKee made enough of a splash that, after Farrah Abraham was fired for being a nightmare of a human being (though she was also unfortunately shamed for her sex work), people kept bringing up Mackenzie as a possible replacement.

We know that those are some big, obnoxious shoes to fill.

(Mackenzie is also reportedly being considered for Teen Mom 2 after Jenelle Eason’s future on the show was cast in doubt — either way, Mackenzie would replace a widely hated star)

Now it’s been reported that Mackenzie is joining the Teen Mom OG cast, specifically.

There’s no way to know for sure how fans will react to seeing a different person on the show or the new “vibe” that each episode will bring.

But people have already formed some strong opinions.

In an interview with RadarOnline, Farrah Abraham’s mom Debra Danielsen says that she has misgivings about the idea of Mackenzie filling the void that Farrah left behind.

For starters, she’s just not sure about Mackenzie’s appeal.

“I don’t know how relatable a female bodybuilder is.”

Maybe, though other reality shows have featured female bodybuilders who turned out to be very popular with viewers (just look at 90 Day Fiance‘s Paola Mayfield).

Mackenzie is also married to the father of her children and has an enthusiastic fanbase.

“It’s a bizarre choice knowing our demographic.”

It sounds like maybe Debra herself doesn’t know what to think of a female bodybuilder and might be projecting that onto others.

“I feel like it’s a little disjointed.”

Aside from her doubts as to whether Middle America or key age demographics or whatever will run screaming for the hills at the sight of Mackenzie McKee’s Herculean physique, Debra seems to wish Mackenzie well.

And she feels that Mackenzie’s one big selling point is … her own mother.

“She has a relatable story with her mom being ill.”

Mackenzie’s mother’s cancer battle is serious. She has been diagnosed with Stage IV brain cancer.

(Mackenzie’s mom has apparently been struggling to pay her hospital bills, so a lot of fans welcome the idea of Mackenzie raking in a Teen Mom sized paycheck)

“If Mackenzie took over there would be a new dimension. I hope she does well.”

Debra can’t really pretend to be neutral in all of this — she’s talking about her own daughter’s replacement.

Plus, Debra has some sentimental attachments to Teen Mom of her own.

“I love the cast and crew because we’ve been together for 10 years.”

She spoke of how she misses being part of the show.

“It’s personally very hard for me not to be there. It’s very difficult.”

That’s show business, folks.

Debra Danielsen may be right about people having trouble reconciling a devoted mother with a female bodybuilder. Some folks live in an isolated bubble.

But some question whether that will be any harder for fans to deal with than a sex worker.

In any case, she’s definitely right that the show will be different with Mackenzie than it was with Farrah.

And by “different,” we mean “better.”

The Teen Mom franchise has been criticized for portraying the moms in a negative light. Mackenzie, who largely has her act together, could really change that and provide a nice contrast.

We’ll all find out together.


Debra Danielsen: Farrah Abraham Beat Me Up!

After a decade of absurd behavior thoroughly documented by reality TV cameras, we thought we’d seen the very worst that Farrah Abraham had to offer.

But then Farrah’s mother, Debra Danielsen, wrote a memoir, and we realized we’ve only scratched the surface of the dysfunction and depravity in the Abraham family.

Teen Mom tell-alls are nothing new, but Deb’s seems to be offering a unique spin on the genre.

For starters, Danielsen went with the completely bonkers title of Vapor: A True Story of How I Fell Victim to Catfishing.

And while that might lead you to believe that she’s gonna take you into Nev and Max territory, all the excerpts thus far have basically been lengthy justifications of Deb’s hatred for her daughter and ex-husband.

Earlier this week, we learned that Michael Abraham did drugs and cheated on Deb while they were married.

(Or so Danielsen claims.)

Now it’s Farrah’s turn to get roasted, and Deb is once again bringing the heat.

In a Vapor excerpt published today by Radar Online, Debra basically claims her famous daughter is a violent psychopath.

If you’ve seen Farrah beat up Teen Mom producers and generally act like a lunatic for the past ten years, then that might not come as much of a surprise to you.

In the past Farrah has claimed that her mom “beat her bloody,” and on at least one occasion, she called the police on Deb,

Now, Danielsen is saying that she was attacked by Farrah, who then called the police to make it look like she was the victim.

“Farrah had beat me up, I had been crying, I was in a large amount of pain,” Deb writes with cavalier disregard for the concept of run-on sentences.

“After all of this, she had quietly gone upstairs to call the police and turn me in for hitting her.”

Danielsen concedes that her wrist made contact with her daughter’s lip while they were struggling and that Farrah was left with “one drop of blood on her lip.”

Of course, no discussion of the life of Farrah would be complete without some mention of the infamous Backdoor Teen Mom sex tape.

Deb recalls learning about the tape and confronting Farrah, who wasn’t exactly interested in a rational discussion.

“She snapped back and said that Michael and I overreact and ‘need to get our sh-t together,'” Deb writes.

“She didn’t need us embarrassing her. That hurt.”

Being called embarrassing by Farrah freakin’ Abraham? Yeah, that’s gotta sting just a bit.

Watch Teen Mom OG online to be reminded of just how embarrassing Farrah truly is.


Debra Danielsen: Farrah Abraham’s Dad Is a Cheating Druggie!

It’s hard to imagine a more perfect reality TV star than Farrah Abraham.

We know what you’re thinking, and you’re absolutely right–Farrah is unintelligent, rude to the point of cruelty, delusional, and almost impossibly self-centered.

And that’s exactly what makes her such a great fit for reality television.

If you’re unfamiliar with Farrah, you might watch an episode of Teen Mom OG and wonder where such a person comes from.

Fortunately, we have the answer.

You see, Farrah is the product of two profoundly effed-up individuals.

There’s her mother, Debra Danielsen, who’s basically what Farrah will be like in 20 years if she figures out how to get Xanax prescriptions from three different doctors.

Then there’s her father, Michael Abraham, who’s basically Ned Flanders if he were driven quietly insane by the knowledge that his daughter became a gosh-dang-diddily porn star, even though she doesn’t need the money.

You may think that the world has all the Deb and Michael it needs thanks to their frequent appearances on TMOG, but apparently Deb disagrees.

She’s penned a memoir with the curious title of Vapor, and in it, she reveals that Mike was a straight-up d-bag during their marriage:

“The big problem in our relationship was that Michael felt disconnected from me because I refused to take illegal drugs that he enjoyed taking,” Danielsen writes.

Now, the book is light on specifics, so it’s possible that she’s talking about something as innocent as smoking weed, which would really damage her street cred, and possibly bring an end to Deb’s rap career.

But she goes on to claim that Michael would get all hopped on goofballs and then run out and cheat on her.

“I demanded fidelity in our relationship,” Danielsen writes.

“Michael could no longer deal with either one of these positions, which I hold dear to my heart.”

The Abraham family doesn’t have the greatest history when it comes to honesty, but Deb says she can corroborate her claims with letters written to her by a repentant Michael:

“Michael told me he was sorry for his affairs,” Deb says.

“He asked for my forgiveness and begged me to reconsider, but I just couldn’t do it anymore. He has been involved in countless affairs.”

Deb also claims that she “worked out every day for 15 years” in order to keep Mike happy, but it wasn’t enough.

For his part, Michael denies the affairs, and claims he never once commented on his ex-wife’s weight.

“I’m a very intelligent man,” Abraham says.

“You never talk about a woman’s age or weight. Debra is a very beautiful woman.”

Sounds like we’re gonna need a response memoir from Mike!

You might think you’re sick of these two, but if Farrah really gets fired by MTV, you’ll be fiending for more Mike and Deb in no time!

Watch Teen Mom OG online for more on the gloriously messed-up Abraham clan.


Debra Messing: Praised for Calling Out E! Over Gender Pay Gap!

Like many of the women who came dressed in black to the Golden Globes, a wardrobe of solidarity was only the most superficial part of Debra Messing's agenda for the evening.

She is now being hailed as one of the evening's most satisfying highlights. Why?

As you'll see in the video below, Debra Messing calls out E!'s alleged gender pay gap … while being interviewed by E!.

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Sunday night's Golden Globes were huge.

Oprah delivered a powerful speech that everyone is still talking about.

Oprah, Aziz Ansari, and Sterling K. Brown all made history with their respective awards — some long, long overdue milestones.

In her role as a presenter, Natalie Portman dragged the "all-male nominees" for Best Director, highlighting the bizarre gender gap and the women who were robbed for recognition of their incredible work.

Debra Messing didn't wait until the ceremony to grab people's attention.

She made her stand on the red carpet.

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Speaking to Giuliana Rancic, Debra Messing had a lot to say about the #TimesUp movement (which grew out of #MeToo).

"…Its time is up. We want diversity. We want intersectional gender parity. We want equal pay."

Those are all wonderful things! It's great that she's one of countless people demanding change in Hollywood.

And speaking of that whole equal pay thing …

"I was shocked to hear that E! doesn’t believe in paying their female co-host the same as their male co-host."

Oh wow.

"I miss Catt Sadler, so we stand with her. And that’s something that can change tomorrow."

Debra messing at the globes

See, just last month, Catt Sadler quit working at E! over an alleged pay gap issue.

She apparently learned that, though she'd worked at E! for 12 years, her cohost Jason Kennedy was earning about twice her salary, and that he'd been making that much for years.

The pay gap happens in all kinds of industries, folks. It can happen in entertainment news and anywhere else.

Many people hope that E! will make a fair offer to Catt Sadler that will allow her to return to work with dignity.

No one doubts that Jason Kennedy is worth what he's making; they just want for Catt Sadler to be paid what she deserves.

And, by extension, for all women to be paid what they deserve rather than what employers believe that they can get away with.

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For the record, Debra Messing was not the only star on E!'s red carpet speaking out about Catt Sadler.

Eva Longoria, gorgeous and pregnant, told Ryan Seacrest:

"We support gender equity and equal pay, and we hope that E! follows that lead with Catt as well. We stand with you, Catt."

The fact that so many actresses wore black in solidarity and spoke about such important issues is a real sign of progress.

Debra messing profile at the golden globes

That is not to say that the Golden Globes went off without a hitch, however.

One subject of continuing controversy is creepy James Franco winning a Golden Globe when his reputation is sketchy at best.

In fact, his win on that night of all nights was enough for one actress to hint at sexual misconduct. Others have chimed in, alleging things like an interest in underage teens.

So yes, Hollywood — like the rest of the world — has a long way to go before everything's as it should be.

But progress can only be made when people speak out. Thank you, Debra Messing.

See her call out E! right to E!'s cameras here:

Debra messing praised for calling out e over gender pay gap